Continuing the journey, House of M! Or, "What to do when you've made a character ludicrously powerful."
I decently liked this cross-over. It's the Magneto version of Age of Apocalypse. One thing I like about it is you can just read the House of M limited series and get the full effect. The tie-in series are absolutely not necessary.
Cutting and pasting and editing from Comic Book Reading Orders.
Excalibur Vol. 3 #13
Excalibur Vol. 3 #14
House of M #1 (2005)
House of M #2
#the history of how the new reality happened. If you want to know how magneto took over the world, put Apocalypse in his place, this is that story.
Civil War: House of M #1 (2008)
Civil War: House of M #2
Civil War: House of M #3
Civil War: House of M #4
Civil War: House of M #5
#How human super villians defy and ultimately fall to Magneto, highly skippable
House of M: Masters of Evil #1 (2009)
House of M: Masters of Evil #2
House of M: Masters of Evil #3
House of M: Masters of Evil #4
#totally skippable. I'm not much into the marvel knights stuff though.
House of M: Avengers #1 (2008)
House of M: Avengers #2
House of M: Avengers #3
House of M: Avengers #4
House of M: Avengers #5
#the House of M incredible Hulk arc is marginally interesting. I don't think Hulk really picks up until Planet Hulk starts though.
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #83
#How Doom falls to Magneto. Skippable.
Fantastic Four: House of M #1 (2005)
Fantastic Four: House of M #2
Fantastic Four: House of M #3
#Kind of a mess, but I liked the premise and the twist. There's a scene where Jonah reads Parker's childhood journal on TV and I laughed out loud.
Spider-Man: House of M #1 (2005)
Spider-Man: House of M #2
Spider-Man: House of M #3
Spider-Man: House of M #4
Spider-Man: House of M #5
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #84
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #85
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #86
#Kind of awful?
Iron Man: House of M #1 (2005)
Iron Man: House of M #2
Iron Man: House of M #3
#i wasn't that into district x and it's not really better here.
Mutopia X #1 (2005)
Mutopia X #2
Mutopia X #3
#marginally interesting because it's genis. why can't they figure out what to do with this character?
New Thunderbolts #11
#probably my favorite tie-in. I LOVE Alan Davis, especially his early Excalibur work and Captain Britain stuff, and if you like that, boy does this arc deliver.
Uncanny X-Men #462
Uncanny X-Men #463
Uncanny X-Men #464
Uncanny X-Men #465
House of M #3
#Probably the best of the New X-men stuff, but I still hate it. Who are these kids? Idk and I don't want to know.
New X-Men Vol. 2 #16
New X-Men Vol. 2 #17
New X-Men Vol. 2 #18
New X-Men Vol. 2 #19
#skippable side story. The good wolverine content happens in the House of M limited series. I like him and Mystique as a couple though.
Wolverine Vol. 3 #33
Wolverine Vol. 3 #34
Wolverine Vol. 3 #35
House of M #4
House of M #5
#They brought back a lot of hastily killed characters this year. In this issue: Hawkeye!
The Pulse #10
#skip
Captain America Vol. 5 #10
#I liked this one
Black Panther Vol. 4 #7
#Pretty decent, still love Blink.
Exiles #69
Exiles #70
Exiles #71
#Still borderline unreadable. I just tune out the deadpool babble.
Cable & Deadpool #17
House of M #6
House of M #7
Mutopia X #4
House of M #8
#skip
Giant-Size Ms. Marvel #1 (2006)
Wednesday, January 15, 2020
Marvel Reading List - Disassembled to House of M
Over Christmas I decided to catch up on some old Thor comics I had bought but not read. Within a day or two this had turned into a marvel unlimited subscription and catching up with x-men/avengers stuff since I left off somewhere in 2004 (right around disassembled). Crucial to this project, has been the master marvel reading order I randomly found via google.
I am a 43-year-old who has different tastes than 23-year-old me, so I am omitting or at least explaining what, in my opinion, is or is not worth your time. Not all creative teams are equal and not all story arcs are really worth your time. This is my opinion on which is which. Your opinion may vary!
And, to repeat, I'm mostly interested in X-men/Avengers characters this run. Spidey, for instance, is only a focus here so far as he shows up in those franchises and cross-overs. Disassembled is a common choice for the "modern era" so I'm starting there. To be clear, I'm literally cutting and pasting the reading order linked above and omitting what I wasn't interested in, and commenting on what I ended up reading.
(I spoil some of the arcs in the hashtag summaries. I figure 15 years is enough time to wait.)
Excalibur Vol. 3 #1 (2004)*
*Excalibur Vol. 3 is HIGHLY skippable. The short of it is, Professor X and Magneto find themselves on a ruined genosha and have some hijinks with forgettable mutants. It's a 12-issue set-up for the start of House of M which is utterly unnecessary.
Thor Vol. 2 #80
Thor Vol. 2 #81
Avengers #500
Avengers #501
Avengers #502
Avengers #503
Thor Vol. 2 #82
Thor Vol. 2 #83
Thor Vol. 2 #84
Thor Vol. 2 #85
Avengers Finale #1 (2005)
#disassembled fallout leading to House of M
# a completely unnecessary but fun FF arc wherein Johnny Storm finds himself the Herald of Galactus
Fantastic Four #520
Fantastic Four #521
Fantastic Four #522
Fantastic Four #523
Fantastic Four #524
#Beta Rill Bill post-Ragnarok, not necessary but has its moments.
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #1 (2005)
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #2
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #3
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #4
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #5
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #6
#mostly good on re-read
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #1 (2003)
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #2
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #3
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #4
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #5
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #6
#Super weird Savage Land arc, but hey, Psylocke's back!
Uncanny X-Men #455
Uncanny X-Men #456
Uncanny X-Men #457
Uncanny X-Men #458
Uncanny X-Men #459
#Wolverine Enemy of the State arc. Decent, feel free to skip New X-Men, teenage soap opera drivel
Wolverine Vol. 3 #20
Wolverine Vol. 3 #21
Wolverine Vol. 3 #22
Wolverine Vol. 3 #23
Wolverine Vol. 3 #24
Wolverine Vol. 3 #25
New X-Men Vol. 2 #13
Uncanny X-Men #460Uncanny X-Men #461
Wolverine Vol. 3 #26
Wolverine Vol. 3 #27
Wolverine Vol. 3 #28
Wolverine Vol. 3 #29
Wolverine Vol. 3 #30
Wolverine Vol. 3 #31
Wolverine Vol. 3 #32
#I have yet to encounter a Gambit solo arc worth reading, and this run is no exception
Gambit Vol. 4 #7
Gambit Vol. 4 #8
Gambit Vol. 4 #9
Gambit Vol. 4 #10
Gambit Vol. 4 #11
Gambit Vol. 4 #12
#Warren Ellis! I am a fan, recommended for that reason alone. Also, serious suit status quo upgrade.
Iron Man Vol. 4 #1 (2005)
Iron Man Vol. 4 #2
Iron Man Vol. 4 #3
Iron Man Vol. 4 #4
Iron Man Vol. 4 #5
Iron Man Vol. 4 #6
# I tried with the New Thunderbolts because it ostensibly features Genis Vell, but I hated it
After Thunderbolts #81 the series was retitled New Thunderbolts
New Thunderbolts #1 (2005)
New Thunderbolts #2
New Thunderbolts #3
New Thunderbolts #4
New Thunderbolts #5
New Thunderbolts #6
#The crimes and "death" of Nick Fury. So so, skippable both in quality and impact. If you're wondering why Fury disappears for a while, this is the arc that tells you.
Secret War #1 (2005)
Secret War #2
Secret War #3
Secret War #4
Secret War #5
#A surprisingly sweet goodbye to Jean Grey. I'm not sure why they hated this character, but she gets the send-off she deserves here.
X-Men: Phoenix Endsong #1 (2005)
X-Men: Phoenix Endsong #2
X-Men: Phoenix Endsong #3
X-Men: Phoenix Endsong #4
X-Men: Phoenix Endsong #5
#x-men is a weird, not great soap opera during this period. Iceman is dating Polaris and Havok is jealous, Rogue and Gambit are angsty, etc. Awful. I otherwise appreciate the weirdness of the arc.
X-Men Vol. 2 #166
X-Men Vol. 2 #167
X-Men Vol. 2 #168
X-Men Vol. 2 #169
X-Men Vol. 2 #170
#An exceedingly stupid plot from Whedon where the Danger Room becomes sentient and attacks the team. This feels like a "I'm running out of ideas ... maybe the house comes alive somehow" bad idea and it's odd it's the second major arc.
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #7
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #8
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #9
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #10
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #11
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #12]
#I missed this the first time around, but appreciate the characters and the queer representation.
Young Avengers #1 (2005) - First appearance of the Young Avengers
Young Avengers #2
Young Avengers #3
Young Avengers #4
Young Avengers #5
Young Avengers #6
#Fun, not vital
Black Panther Vol. 4 #1 (2005)
Black Panther Vol. 4 #2
Black Panther Vol. 4 #3
Black Panther Vol. 4 #4
Black Panther Vol. 4 #5
Black Panther Vol. 4 #6
#totally skippable
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #77
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #78
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #79
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #80
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #81
#Decently good, I like this avengers make-up frankly.
New Avengers #1 (2005)
New Avengers #2
New Avengers #3
New Avengers #4 - First appearance of Maria Hill
New Avengers #5
New Avengers #6
#a patience-trying Gambit/Rogue soap opera where Mystique tries to sleep with her daughter's BF for the sake of their relationship. Jesus God.
X-Men Vol. 2 #171
X-Men Vol. 2 #172
X-Men Vol. 2 #173
X-Men Vol. 2 #174
Young Avengers #7
Young Avengers #8
New Avengers #7
New Avengers #8
New Avengers #9
New Avengers #10
#x-men vs black panther, first hints of this eras Storm/BP romance
X-Men Vol. 2 #175
Black Panther Vol. 4 #8
X-Men Vol. 2 #176
Black Panther Vol. 4 #9
#I used to like DP, but this comic is borderline unreadable. Still read it.
Cable & Deadpool #15
Cable & Deadpool #16
#arguably the only two Excalibur comics you need to read going into House of M. Could easily just skip them. Magneto brings Scarlet Witch to Genosha so Xavier can try to help her. That's all you need to know.
Excalibur Vol. 3 #11
Excalibur Vol. 3 #12
I am a 43-year-old who has different tastes than 23-year-old me, so I am omitting or at least explaining what, in my opinion, is or is not worth your time. Not all creative teams are equal and not all story arcs are really worth your time. This is my opinion on which is which. Your opinion may vary!
And, to repeat, I'm mostly interested in X-men/Avengers characters this run. Spidey, for instance, is only a focus here so far as he shows up in those franchises and cross-overs. Disassembled is a common choice for the "modern era" so I'm starting there. To be clear, I'm literally cutting and pasting the reading order linked above and omitting what I wasn't interested in, and commenting on what I ended up reading.
(I spoil some of the arcs in the hashtag summaries. I figure 15 years is enough time to wait.)
Excalibur Vol. 3 #1 (2004)*
*Excalibur Vol. 3 is HIGHLY skippable. The short of it is, Professor X and Magneto find themselves on a ruined genosha and have some hijinks with forgettable mutants. It's a 12-issue set-up for the start of House of M which is utterly unnecessary.
#Avengers disassembled, imo Thor and Avengers are the only necessary arcs here
Thor Vol. 2 #80
Thor Vol. 2 #81
Avengers #500
Avengers #501
Avengers #502
Avengers #503
Thor Vol. 2 #82
Thor Vol. 2 #83
Thor Vol. 2 #84
Thor Vol. 2 #85
Avengers Finale #1 (2005)
#disassembled fallout leading to House of M
# a completely unnecessary but fun FF arc wherein Johnny Storm finds himself the Herald of Galactus
Fantastic Four #520
Fantastic Four #521
Fantastic Four #522
Fantastic Four #523
Fantastic Four #524
#Beta Rill Bill post-Ragnarok, not necessary but has its moments.
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #1 (2005)
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #2
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #3
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #4
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #5
Stormbreaker: The Saga of Beta Ray Bill #6
#mostly good on re-read
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #1 (2003)
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #2
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #3
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #4
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #5
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #6
#Super weird Savage Land arc, but hey, Psylocke's back!
Uncanny X-Men #455
Uncanny X-Men #456
Uncanny X-Men #457
Uncanny X-Men #458
Uncanny X-Men #459
#Wolverine Enemy of the State arc. Decent, feel free to skip New X-Men, teenage soap opera drivel
Wolverine Vol. 3 #20
Wolverine Vol. 3 #21
Wolverine Vol. 3 #22
Wolverine Vol. 3 #23
Wolverine Vol. 3 #24
Wolverine Vol. 3 #25
New X-Men Vol. 2 #13
Uncanny X-Men #460Uncanny X-Men #461
Wolverine Vol. 3 #26
Wolverine Vol. 3 #27
Wolverine Vol. 3 #28
Wolverine Vol. 3 #29
Wolverine Vol. 3 #30
Wolverine Vol. 3 #31
Wolverine Vol. 3 #32
#I have yet to encounter a Gambit solo arc worth reading, and this run is no exception
Gambit Vol. 4 #7
Gambit Vol. 4 #8
Gambit Vol. 4 #9
Gambit Vol. 4 #10
Gambit Vol. 4 #11
Gambit Vol. 4 #12
#Warren Ellis! I am a fan, recommended for that reason alone. Also, serious suit status quo upgrade.
Iron Man Vol. 4 #1 (2005)
Iron Man Vol. 4 #2
Iron Man Vol. 4 #3
Iron Man Vol. 4 #4
Iron Man Vol. 4 #5
Iron Man Vol. 4 #6
# I tried with the New Thunderbolts because it ostensibly features Genis Vell, but I hated it
After Thunderbolts #81 the series was retitled New Thunderbolts
New Thunderbolts #1 (2005)
New Thunderbolts #2
New Thunderbolts #3
New Thunderbolts #4
New Thunderbolts #5
New Thunderbolts #6
#The crimes and "death" of Nick Fury. So so, skippable both in quality and impact. If you're wondering why Fury disappears for a while, this is the arc that tells you.
Secret War #1 (2005)
Secret War #2
Secret War #3
Secret War #4
Secret War #5
#A surprisingly sweet goodbye to Jean Grey. I'm not sure why they hated this character, but she gets the send-off she deserves here.
X-Men: Phoenix Endsong #1 (2005)
X-Men: Phoenix Endsong #2
X-Men: Phoenix Endsong #3
X-Men: Phoenix Endsong #4
X-Men: Phoenix Endsong #5
#x-men is a weird, not great soap opera during this period. Iceman is dating Polaris and Havok is jealous, Rogue and Gambit are angsty, etc. Awful. I otherwise appreciate the weirdness of the arc.
X-Men Vol. 2 #166
X-Men Vol. 2 #167
X-Men Vol. 2 #168
X-Men Vol. 2 #169
X-Men Vol. 2 #170
#An exceedingly stupid plot from Whedon where the Danger Room becomes sentient and attacks the team. This feels like a "I'm running out of ideas ... maybe the house comes alive somehow" bad idea and it's odd it's the second major arc.
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #7
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #8
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #9
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #10
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #11
Astonishing X-Men Vol. 3 #12]
#I missed this the first time around, but appreciate the characters and the queer representation.
Young Avengers #1 (2005) - First appearance of the Young Avengers
Young Avengers #2
Young Avengers #3
Young Avengers #4
Young Avengers #5
Young Avengers #6
#Fun, not vital
Black Panther Vol. 4 #1 (2005)
Black Panther Vol. 4 #2
Black Panther Vol. 4 #3
Black Panther Vol. 4 #4
Black Panther Vol. 4 #5
Black Panther Vol. 4 #6
#totally skippable
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #77
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #78
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #79
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #80
Incredible Hulk Vol. 2 #81
#Decently good, I like this avengers make-up frankly.
New Avengers #1 (2005)
New Avengers #2
New Avengers #3
New Avengers #4 - First appearance of Maria Hill
New Avengers #5
New Avengers #6
#a patience-trying Gambit/Rogue soap opera where Mystique tries to sleep with her daughter's BF for the sake of their relationship. Jesus God.
X-Men Vol. 2 #171
X-Men Vol. 2 #172
X-Men Vol. 2 #173
X-Men Vol. 2 #174
Young Avengers #7
Young Avengers #8
New Avengers #7
New Avengers #8
New Avengers #9
New Avengers #10
#x-men vs black panther, first hints of this eras Storm/BP romance
X-Men Vol. 2 #175
Black Panther Vol. 4 #8
X-Men Vol. 2 #176
Black Panther Vol. 4 #9
#I used to like DP, but this comic is borderline unreadable. Still read it.
Cable & Deadpool #15
Cable & Deadpool #16
#arguably the only two Excalibur comics you need to read going into House of M. Could easily just skip them. Magneto brings Scarlet Witch to Genosha so Xavier can try to help her. That's all you need to know.
Excalibur Vol. 3 #11
Excalibur Vol. 3 #12
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